Hillsong NYC’s Carl Lentz: At This Church, We Are Not Saying ‘All Lives Matter’

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This Sunday, Hillsong New York pastor Carl Lentz took to Facebook to explain why the church has embraced Black Lives Matter and addressing racial injustice. Specifically, he explained why they don’t use the phrase “All Lives Matter.” Lentz wrote:

“At THIS church, we are not saying ‘all lives matter’ right now because this is a logical assumption that most reasonable people agree with. All lives are not at risk right now. We ARE saying BLACK LIVES MATTER. Because, right now, black lives apparently are worth LESS on our streets. It’s “our fight” not “their fight.”

The church has become one of most the influential young congregations in the country, regularly engaging in conversations about race and social injustice. Last week, Lentz posted a black and white photo of the church’s leadership team on Instagram, explaining:

“What’s ironic about using a “black and white” filter on a photo, is that you can’t really tell who’s black, and whose white..ironic.. Last night we had a meeting w/ some faithful leaders in our church, who are mostly black, to begin what will be an ongoing discussion on progressive diversity.

We talked about things that were very frustrating/sad/uncomfortable and vulnerable.. Things like how it feels to be black in America right now. I also asked how it feels to be black, and a faithful part of @hillsongnyc …all I can say, is that I’m glad to be a part of a church and community that is a work in progress and discontented w/ status culture quo.

I would encourage anybody who cares about people, to somehow find a way to hear voices of those that don’t share your journey. It will impact you. And times are as urgent as they have ever been…

What’s cool to me?? I don’t see this photo and think about color. I see this photo and I think about family.. #occupyallstreets also.. Shout out to Corey Robinson who declared “I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT BEING BLACK! EVERYTHING!” Haha i cannot relate, but you totally convinced me.”

The Praying Woman

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Linda Cull

‘Black lives matter’ ‘All lives matter’ ‘Blue lives matter’ while all these statements are true, I think these are ‘fighting statements’ they divide they incite. When you say Black lives matter, people will automatically think well what about White lives? When you say All lives matter people think you are trying to deflect from the Black lives matter and when you say Blue lives matter people think you advocate police brutality. I dislike the whole thing. ‘Stop the violence’ is my response to it all. Maybe just doing that would solve the problems. …

You missed the entire point of the article. As the article points out, All lives are not at risk right now. We ARE saying BLACK LIVES MATTER. Because, right now, black lives apparently are worth LESS on our streets. No disrespect to any other race or the good cops.

Linda Cull

I notice you said the ‘good’ cops. It’s wrong for the ‘bad’ blacks to be killed unlawfully too, by eachother or by the cops. We have courts to met out justice. It’s a very dangerous time to be a police officer. I work with some. If my son were to tell me he wants to be a cop, I’d be tempted to be fearful for his safety. The thought that citizens would be any less than respectful to them let alone gun them down in the street is just nuts to me. I almost want to say something like Blue… Read more »

Linda Cull

Your first sentence implies that I said something anti-christian. It is a argumentative start. I won’t engage. I am a christian. My first sentence agreed that it is true that Black lives matter. We should not murder eachother. No one has to tell me that to murder someone who is black is just as wrong as to murder someone who is white. I see the futility of this conversation. Peace.

I think the fact that you can’t just say Black Lives Matter and leave it at that is argumentative in itself. Whether you’re a Christian or not. Maybe a better way you should look at it is…. Black Lives Matter (too). We Matter too. That’s all we’re saying.

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